Nick Offerman

I also love music, but I've benefited greatly from her acumen.

You almost got a part on Will and Grace that ultimately went to Woody Harrelson, and you also auditioned for the role of Michael Scott in The Office.

You didn't get either, but your audition created the seed for the casting director that became your character, Ron Swanson, in Parks and Rec.

And is it true that when you got the call from your producer, Mike Schur, you sobbed for 30 minutes upon hearing you got the role?

I mean, 30 minutes might be, it may have been more like 28 minutes.

Professionally, it was all of the parts that I didn't get for so many years.

paid off so powerfully with such an emotional catharsis because all of those other roles weren't right.

It would have been wonderful to get a cool part on a show, but we've seen the examples you've cited.

The reason I didn't get the roles is because they were better people.

Finally, the role found me that no one ostensibly could have done better.

So life clicked in for me at age 38, I think I was.

It was like the end of the Lord of the Rings or something where I was like, oh, my God, it all makes sense.

Everything Gandalf ever said to me suddenly hit home.

And so I had a very emotional, gratitude-filled reaction.

You played Ron Swanson on Parks and Recreation for all of the show's seven seasons to great acclaim.

You won the Television Critics Association Award for Individual Achievement in Comedy, twice nominated for the Critics' Choice Television Award for Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series.

You've also starred in movies including The Founder and Hearts Beat Loud, in the television shows Fargo, Devs, which I just binge watched and loved.

I need to ask you about your hair in that one.

And along with Amy Poehler, you hosted the NBC reality series Making It and have been nominated for two Emmy Awards.

Congratulations on all of that.