Nick Offerman

You've written about your relationship in several of your books, but I find it most poignant in your brand new book, Where the Deer and the Antelope Play, the pastoral observations of one ignorant American who loves to walk outside.

Congratulations on another wonderfully funny, acerbic, humorous, and really wonderful book.

Thank you so much.

I'm really proud of it.

Your book is organized in three parts.

Part one and two are focused on your 2019 pre-COVID trips to Glacier National Park in Montana and to Lake District Farm in northwestern England with your friends, the writer George Saunders and Jeff Tweedy, the singer-songwriter and frontman for the band Wilco.

And early in the book, you write that successfully utilizing any public bathroom facility depends upon your cleanliness and your kindness, as well as that of your neighbors.

If those who came before you have decent manners, you might avoid the main terror of park toilets, OPPPTYB, an acronym, OPPPTYB.

Can you talk about what OPPTYB is and how to avoid it?

Well, yes, the terror of other people's poop particles touching your butt.

And the terror is real.

And it's it's it's funny.

Unexpectedly, I'm going to swing you back to my sensei shows Osato.

We were when we were on tour.

I left I left a place out.

We started our tour in Cyprus in the middle of the Mediterranean in a 2000 year old Greek amphitheater, which was so incredible to perform Kabuki Achilles in that setting.

While we were there, we had the last couple of weeks of rehearsal in a little mountain village called Kalapaniotis.

And the young men in the show were being put up in a monastery in a sort of dormitory setting, but, you know, quite idyllic in the Cypriot mountains.

And one day, Sensei came in to check on us and sort of check out our comportment, as it were.

We were his charges.