Nick Offerman

And he looked into our bathroom.

And I don't remember, you know, we had basically destroyed this bathroom.

It was terrible.

And he came out and gave me this lesson I can never forget, which is he said, when you leave a bathroom messy...

No matter who comes after you into that bathroom, you are doing them such an unkindness.

You're being such a bad neighbor.

And if you go into a bathroom and someone else has left it messy...

It doesn't matter who did or when.

The next person is going to think you did it.

Yes.

So not only do you have to be conscientious and take care of your own hygiene and cleanliness, but...

And now I'll go into a bathroom that someone else has been a jerk and left a mess.

And I'm like, God damn it, sensei.

Now I have to clean up some other jerk.

But I mean, those are the kind of values that I'm like, okay, that feels like something I would have taken from church where it's like,

It's like picking up litter or it's like doing the right thing even when no one will see you do the wrong thing.

It's never more true than with national park toilets because quite often you come upon them when you're desperate for a place to relieve yourself.

And if someone has left it somehow in an unfriendly way, what a horrible thing to do to your neighbors.

You also talk about a trip that you and Megan took together.

And in your book, you describe how at the time, which was just when COVID had really taken hold, both you and Megan had been dealing with your own personal, you termed it flavors of depression, and describe how your general happiness often depends upon your ability to accomplish good productive work,