Nick Pell

I think inflated-ish, the thing about non-governmental organizations or NGOs is they have a sort of clear incentive to exaggerate problems. So like domestic servitude is generally defined in really nebulous ways. I know there's examples of people underpaying domestic servants who don't know anything about the law or treating them badly. And again, it's not okay. I'm not okay with that.

I think inflated-ish, the thing about non-governmental organizations or NGOs is they have a sort of clear incentive to exaggerate problems. So like domestic servitude is generally defined in really nebulous ways. I know there's examples of people underpaying domestic servants who don't know anything about the law or treating them badly. And again, it's not okay. I'm not okay with that.

But I don't know that that's slavery. I think that underpaying people is a wage violation and not slavery. I just don't think it's the same thing as an army captain holding a gun to your head or the Cambodian loan sharks are going to kill me if I don't work in the call center. I just don't think it's the same. Another one is the laborers in Persian Gulf countries.

But I don't know that that's slavery. I think that underpaying people is a wage violation and not slavery. I just don't think it's the same thing as an army captain holding a gun to your head or the Cambodian loan sharks are going to kill me if I don't work in the call center. I just don't think it's the same. Another one is the laborers in Persian Gulf countries.

But I don't know that that's slavery. I think that underpaying people is a wage violation and not slavery. I just don't think it's the same thing as an army captain holding a gun to your head or the Cambodian loan sharks are going to kill me if I don't work in the call center. I just don't think it's the same. Another one is the laborers in Persian Gulf countries.

They have to work construction for a single company. They get paid garbage. They live in terrible conditions. That gets counted as slavery a lot. Simon Legree isn't standing behind them with a whip selling their children.

They have to work construction for a single company. They get paid garbage. They live in terrible conditions. That gets counted as slavery a lot. Simon Legree isn't standing behind them with a whip selling their children.

They have to work construction for a single company. They get paid garbage. They live in terrible conditions. That gets counted as slavery a lot. Simon Legree isn't standing behind them with a whip selling their children.

He's the cruel overseer from Uncle Tom's Cabin, a famous abolitionist book from the 19th century.

He's the cruel overseer from Uncle Tom's Cabin, a famous abolitionist book from the 19th century.

He's the cruel overseer from Uncle Tom's Cabin, a famous abolitionist book from the 19th century.

So I think it's weird to start conflating unpleasant working conditions and scammy wages, no matter how egregious the unpleasant working conditions and scammy wages may be, to some kind of forced labor. And I think it enters you into this... Slippery slope of accepting Marxist argumentation about how guys who work in auto factories and make $80,000 a year are slaves because they have to.

So I think it's weird to start conflating unpleasant working conditions and scammy wages, no matter how egregious the unpleasant working conditions and scammy wages may be, to some kind of forced labor. And I think it enters you into this... Slippery slope of accepting Marxist argumentation about how guys who work in auto factories and make $80,000 a year are slaves because they have to.

So I think it's weird to start conflating unpleasant working conditions and scammy wages, no matter how egregious the unpleasant working conditions and scammy wages may be, to some kind of forced labor. And I think it enters you into this... Slippery slope of accepting Marxist argumentation about how guys who work in auto factories and make $80,000 a year are slaves because they have to.

I think we obviously haven't moved past it. Right. I don't really subscribe to the worldview that says that the world gets morally better over time. To me, it's like we're damn lucky to be

I think we obviously haven't moved past it. Right. I don't really subscribe to the worldview that says that the world gets morally better over time. To me, it's like we're damn lucky to be

I think we obviously haven't moved past it. Right. I don't really subscribe to the worldview that says that the world gets morally better over time. To me, it's like we're damn lucky to be

Living in this infinitesimal period of human history where being a slave who gets worked to death in a salt mine and has your children taken from you to get worked to death somewhere else isn't just normal human existence. That is what happens to most or damn near most people. And I think in an apocalyptic situation where you

Living in this infinitesimal period of human history where being a slave who gets worked to death in a salt mine and has your children taken from you to get worked to death somewhere else isn't just normal human existence. That is what happens to most or damn near most people. And I think in an apocalyptic situation where you

Living in this infinitesimal period of human history where being a slave who gets worked to death in a salt mine and has your children taken from you to get worked to death somewhere else isn't just normal human existence. That is what happens to most or damn near most people. And I think in an apocalyptic situation where you