Nick Troiano

Those are the folks that we need to be talking to.

My orientation changed.

This is a positive sum approach to a movement.

When you look at the environmental movement or other movements, there's not just one policy that they're behind.

It's a diversified policy.

approach, including what could be done at the state or federal level.

And so it doesn't frustrate me that there are multiple potential pathways to making our democracy better.

The thing that's frustrating to me is around apathy or defense of the status quo, because can anyone look around today and say, oh, no, this is actually fine and we're moving in an OK direction?

If you can't, then then choose something.

Choose one of these things to be for.

And get behind it, because I don't think the path that we're on is sustainable.

I do believe that.

And what we saw last year was that the number one predictor for voters that would support election reform at the ballot was not by party affiliation.

It was really by age.

Younger voters disproportionately in favor of changes to a political system they've only known has been broken.

And older voters are more hesitant around any potential changes to a system they've known the same way all of their lives.

And that's good news because young voters become all voters.

It's just a question of time.

And so I think time is a really important lever here.

When you look back, as you referenced before, to the progressive era, when we got major reforms done, women won the right to vote, the direct election of the Senate, banning of corporate campaign contributions, even the election of party primaries.