Nick Troiano

And that didn't happen in just a couple of years.

That was a 30-year period of time.

And so when I think about, oh, Alaska won this transformational reform four years ago, it suggests to me we're at the beginning of a very exciting decade-plus era of reform in reaction to –

you know, historic levels of polarization and partisanship the country knows is just not working for them right now?

Well, United America over the years has built a cross-partisan community now over 120, what we call political philanthropists.

And many of them have not traditionally been partisan donors investing in politics for a partisan outcome.

That's fine.

But there's been a lot of people who have come into this movement because their interest is not trying to elect or oppose one political party or another.

It's about people who have been philanthropically minded, who care about an issue that knows we're not going to make progress on that issue, but for...

government being able to be functional and representative of the electorate.

So I would say it's a different profile oftentimes of a donor that gets involved in this space.

And from across the political spectrum as well, it's really interesting in this work, not just at our team or board level, but also in the donor community of people that may not agree a lot

on particular candidates or particular policies, but we do agree that government should represent a true majority of Americans.

And then let's have the argument once we have a government that can represent us.

In the near term, I do think that legislators will take more time to bring along to more ambitious reforms.

But let's remember that California adopted its all-Canada primary system by legislative referral.

So some states' legislatures might be willing to at least put it on the ballot.

It takes leadership, though.

Governor Schwarzenegger was...

instrumental in that campaign.