Nick Viall

Somebody is lying, manipulating, gaslighting until the other person is all of a sudden like snaps.

And then you point at that person, maybe in this case, Taylor, and you're like, whoa, whoa, oh my God, you're being crazy.

You're abusing me.

The fact is that like Taylor also acts like this in other relationships, not like as severe, but we've seen her like...

lose her shit before.

She can get really mad at other people as well.

So that's why it doesn't fit very cleanly.

It's not just Dakota provoking her and then Taylor reacting.

And you said this, but I feel like it's important to say, reactive abuse does not cancel out personal accountability, right?

It just sort of adds some context.

So even if there was some reactive abuse going on there for Taylor...

It's still very upsetting to watch her throw stools and watch one of them hit her kid.

Yeah, there's so much going on here.

Yeah, like you're mentioning, there's just sort of like this inherent power that a man has.

Dakota is stronger, bigger.

If he wanted to, he could like physically harm her quickly.

So that's always kind of like hanging in the air there.

But also, Taylor does have a specific type of power.

So Taylor has like a public power.

Taylor is the famous one, maybe like the more famous one.