Nick Viall

You sort of play with the truth.

because you're so concerned about how you're seen or your shame or how to get more drugs.

So it's hard to kind of like nail down Dakota with the truth because there's always something that he's hiding and there's always gonna be something that he is hiding.

And he's kind of talked about this before and admitted to it, but he's also, instead of being addicted to drugs, he's addicted to her now.

He's her drug.

And it's easier for me to treat a client that's addicted to a substance than somebody who's addicted to a person, because at least you can just drop the substance, go cold turkey with that.

But they have a kid and they're never going to be able to go cold turkey.

So there's always going to be something I think that he's going to have to be holding in his pocket.

that will make her look bad or make her dysregulated or hold the truth from her because that's just how he operates.

That's how he survived being an addict.

That's how he's surviving being addicted to her.

You know what I mean?

It's so weird.

As a fan, and I think fans watching...

Mormon Wives on Hulu, you have this specific lens.

They're like, okay, so this is how the drama unfolds.

This is how people show up on the show.

This is kind of like what we're accepting when we're watching this show.

And that's how we sort of view it.

And then there's The Bachelor and The Bachelor Nation.