Nick Viall

That was a very dark situation where here is a man who at the last minute AFR changed his mind.

All he did was realize after nine weeks,

He might have liked his runner-up more and agreed to film Breaking Up with Becca to set up Becca as the bachelorette.

And even though he did the franchise a favor, they screwed him, right?

They made him look terrible.

And he, for a few days, it got really dark.

He was the most hated man in America.

And I remember talking to a producer at the time and kind of just being like, yo, this is a lot.

And their response was...

he's gonna be just fine.

And the truth is, and you can debate the merits of that, but the truth is Ari is living his best life today.

He's been on Traders, he's done a bunch of TV.

The reality is, is the thing he was getting heat for was in reality nothing.

People are allowed to change their mind, but in the TV bachelor world, they made it into something huge.

This is a situation where something illegal is happening.

Some very dark and scary things are happening.

We're talking about someone who clearly is struggling with their mental health.

When we had the opportunity of having Taylor on the show and she talked about this situation.

And if you go back and you watch that interview, it's not like she told a different story.

Right.