Nick Viall

Yeah.

You know, where you're like a picture yourself as a little kid and what you're scared and like older you is coming and the adult is saying like, you're well, I'm here for you, whatever.

Penn was like a 13 million dollar version of that where we're writing ourselves as 13 and then in our 30s and then playing 13 year olds.

And so at the end of that whole thing, I was like, oh, my God, Hulu gave us like the most expensive therapy ever without realizing it.

So it's all been surprisingly, because it feels masochistic in the moment, you know, but it's all been, I think I'm better for it, which is good.

It's hard because it seems now uncool for an adult to be like, I actually had a good time because there's now this sort of accepted... So it's hard to know.

But it does feel like, you know, the people...

I won't say their real names, but like, you know, the kids that you remember from middle school where you say both their first and last name because they were that cool.

Yeah.

Or they're the biggest, you know, not cool.

And then you also say their first and last name.

But, you know, it seems like they're having the perfect time and that they're like the most well adjusted and, you know, all is well.

And, you know, even they are like the right thing wasn't growing at the right time.

I think like I've realized through promoting pen that that was unusual because my and I would get asked a lot like you have journals or because a lot of it was also, you know, a

I'd write a scene that was pitched in the writer's room and Maya would be like, this is not how it happened.

He said this and she said this.

And so we kind of discovered that we did.

And I read an article like a few months ago about emotional memory.

And it was these two sisters and they had lost a friend from high school who had passed away.

They hadn't seen her in like over a decade.