Nicola Talent

So it wasn't just Sextor, there's also... The financial sort of plans of the Gordon Brown government.

He was feeding him information.

He was getting money and his husband had a course paid for in whatever.

everybody has spoken about Mandelson being a cheap date because the kind of money was small.

But actually, and that really brings us on to the reason we're talking about this because we could, you know, you can meander around this Epstein story forever.

But we were really wanting to talk about and just discuss the kind of stories that are closer to home when it comes to the Epstein files.

And there has been some pretty good reporting here in this country

Why don't you start with what our colleagues in the Sunday Independent broke this week in relation to this story.

There's a girl, I think a woman who is here in Ireland who claimed that Epstein was here.

And does she specify are they Irish or are they powerful men without... Is she specifying that they're Irish men?

Yeah, so there's stuff to investigate really here, given what we now know about Epstein and what was going on.

The fact that he was here and he was mixing, there is definitely, you know, keep an open mind about what may or may not have happened here.

I think there's a really interesting story that was broken in our sister publication, The Belfast Telegraph,

over the weekend.

And it was a story by Sam McBride.

Now, I have spent, you know, having read this, my time talking about this story to other journalists and to lawyers.

And I mean, you'd stop on a corridor if you met either a lawyer or a journalist to talk about this.

Yes.

And I hope it's not just a little train spotting thing that just interests us.

There's a bit of it.