Nicola Talent

her interview and secondly the conviction that he has because there's a backup to her calling him that because he actually has a conviction in a court of law in the US saying that he procures an underage female

So, Citric doesn't really know how to cope with this.

He doesn't know how to deal with it.

So, he engages Tweed and he looks for his advice, really, on what can be done to try and damage, limitate Epstein's reputation as regards this.

So, he, in an email, Citric, sorry, in an email to Epstein on the 12th of March, 2011, Citric tells him he discussed the situation with Tweed, who'd represent everyone, he says, from Britney Spears to Gerry Adams.

And Ian Paisley.

And he describes Tweed as the defamation lawyer I've used in the UK.

So he's singing him up like this is the guy to go to.

This is the man that's going to help us.

And he outlines the strategy.

He says that Tweed advocated beginning with a letter to the broadsheets, to the Telegraph in particular, which he describes as being among the worst offenders ever.

Now, I am presuming that that interview with Ferguson is picked up and used everywhere as it would be.

Yeah.

So the Telegraph are the worst offenders probably because they're the most highbrow media organisation.

They're probably less worried about the sun here and whoever else has touched this and redone this.

For sure.

So he says that, he describes, since they're a legitimate paper, they would be more likely to positively respond and less likely to make something of the fact that we were writing to them.

However, as he said, that's Tweed, it's hard to see how it could get worse, right?

So Citric goes on to say that he and Tweed had discussed the definition of paedophilia.

And he'd asked him upon what basis they could possibly justify using that word.