Nicola Talent

So how could Sarah Ferguson, and really she said it, but it's actually the publishers of these newspapers that have the problem, if there is one, because they're the ones who are really putting it out to the mass market, right?

And they're discussing this word pedophilia and they're saying that in the UK, they've come up with this strategy to go at the media to sort of ask them to reverse and apologise and take this back, that the age of consent is 16.

And had the act that he was convicted of, Epstein, occurred in the UK, it wouldn't have been a crime.

So that's picking at a little bit of strife.

Yes.

And they've discussed further with Tweed how this woman is 17 and three quarter years old, the victim.

And that...

He says to him, to Epstein, you were convicted of soliciting prostitution from a woman 17 and three quarters years old.

Their rationale, I believe, would be the published stories of accusations that you got a massage from a 13 or 14 year old while they were in their underwear.

But these are unproven allegations.

And in the UK, as you know, the burden of proof is on them.

So that's what I was saying to that investigation that resulted in that conviction, which was a plea deal, which is questionable.

that Epstein got the original investigation had begun after some kids parents I think of them came forward to police and said their 14 year olds I didn't realise it was a 13 year old as well it was certainly a 14 year old had been sort of sexually assaulted that's how that whole investigation kicked off

No, he wasn't because he did the plea deal and pleaded guilty to this one victim, the 17 and a quarter year old.

So what basically the conversations between Citric and Tweed is that this is what they might come back and say, the media, but these allegations were not proven in court.

So that's, you know, they're trying to weigh up

you know, who's in the winning seat.

This is a kind of a game nearly that they're going to play with the media to see what they can get.

So he tells Epstein that Tweed guessed the papers would say you're on the sex offenders list.

But he wants to think about that.