Nicola Tallent

It could be.

Now we'll do one last question.

How would you actually like, I mean, the thing about Dubai is, and of course there was operations over the years, one of which was thwarted by COVID, to go there because we had details, we had information and we were going to see what we could do.

Firstly, as far as I know, it's illegal to carry out that kind of journalism, investigative journalism in Dubai.

So you're under a lot of pressure and strain there because you're operating in a country where you could be arrested.

It's illegal to take a picture of somebody without permission.

And also, clearly, there would have been always the kind of, the risk that the Kinnehans had a lot of people in their pockets and you didn't know who they were.

You know, even working in Spain was uncomfortable.

around the Kinnehans because you didn't know who they had.

You didn't know who you could trust.

You didn't know, did they have somebody at the airport?

Did they have somebody, I don't mean standing at the airport, but I mean that would be able to kind of keep an eye on flight.

And I was told before that they did have somebody that was able to look at passenger details.

You didn't know if you were checking into a hotel.

you know, you certainly wouldn't have been booking it from the office in the normal way.

So it was always uncomfortable dealing with them and around them.

And I do know at one point when they were in the Iris Blue building,

How do I put this?

Somebody went past it and to have a look and there was mega security outside that building and the individual was actually followed.

Well, you can go if you want.