Nicola Tallent

And what did podcasters Jennifer Ford and

and Sam Bungie discover when they took a deep dive into a world of shadows and secrets.

Today, I'm talking to Jennifer and Sam about their latest series, Havana Helmet Club, a fascinating new podcast from the couple behind West Cork.

You're listening to Crime World, a podcast from crimeworld.com.

Very welcome to the studio.

And I think Jennifer and Sam, people start off, we're not going to talk about this for very long, but we'll probably know you best from West Cork because it was such a phenomenon.

To me, it was the first major big podcast.

I think it got me hooked on them.

A story that's so synonymous with Ireland.

And I was just fascinated that you had moved here to do it and you had kind of totally relocated.

It felt like real journalism again.

But that was pre, certainly podcasts been in my realm.

That was kind of, I think we probably did a little bit of filming with him.

And, you know, we were writing stories with him.

He kept in touch, of course.

He used to ring me full of whiskey at night sometimes.

Freak me out a bit.

But it was a fantastic podcast.

It's still been listened to.

It still comes up and down the charts.