Nicola Tallent

I mean, it was such a success.

When was it?

What year?

2018.

And like, you know, it is a beautiful place and it is quite multicultural in its own way.

But at the same time, it's hard to go in as total outsiders to the story, I'm sure, and get people to trust you and talk to you.

That kind of becomes part of it, does it?

Yeah, definitely.

It doesn't go down too well.

And we all know the story of it and there has been some documentaries made in the meantime.

And of course, Ian Bailey passed away last year, I think it was.

So the case remains unsolved and...

You know, you wonder, will there ever be an end to it?

But who knows?

I was interested, though, when I was listening to your new podcast, which is what we're here to talk about, the Havana Helmet Club, made for BBC4.

So it's on BBC Sounds.

Yeah, it's on everywhere.

It's on everywhere, yeah, because we have some difficulty getting some of the BBC stuff here.

But anyway, so you were kind of in West Cork, were you, when this story came on your radar?

And a kind of a tinnitus with this ringing in the ear as well.