Nicola Tallent

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah so there's a moment I suppose this is a bit train spotting for podcasters but when you realize you have something and you've more than anybody else and that's you have somebody intimate with the story I think you have some so you have patient zero he's agreed in principle maybe to talk to you and so you have somebody really at the heart of the story you need that for podcasting especially to try and keep somebody's

attention for so long.

Yeah.

I mean, you're looking for somebody to stay with you for up to five hours or whatever.

You might record, what, 500 hours, but you'll whittle it down.

Stilling it down, yeah.

So you start to see that you can actually do this.

Too much for me.

Have you got spatial awareness?

No.

No.

I was listening to that and he was talking about, you know, to be chosen for the CIA, to be a spy, go through these rigorous tests.

And one of the things that went with him was he had great spatial awareness.

He could read maps and pack a suitcase.

I was like, I definitely can do neither of those things.

I've obviously got very bad spatial awareness.

No, they haven't.

Not yet.