Nicola Tallent

So he must have used a huge amount of force.

Are they brought in, I suppose, at a point where it's suspected that the two other prisoners' lives are at risk, that this guy is not being talked down, he's very dangerous, he's very heavily armed, and he's totally out of control?

Who were still going to sell with him.

Was he on remand at that stage in relation to the torture of the man who was branded?

And this is why he staged this attack, well, essentially this threatening assault on his cellmates.

Back to the Hennessys there for a second.

What's their standing in the prison?

Are they, I know initially when they went in, there was kind of, they weren't accepted on certain wings and they were, are they tough?

Are they seen as being a crew that you'd be fearful of or are they?

And certainly not to the degree as they probably were feared on the outside.

And also, you know, the Hennessys sort of remind me always of the Dundon.

They have that same modus operandi.

They created terror within their own communities, almost from their own homes.

they would have threatened and brought in younger members of the community whose even parents were afraid of them.

It was all about this intimidation.

They probably didn't make a massive amount of money or have much huge amount of business accolade.

I know they made some, but they probably really, what seemed to be central to their existence was to spread fear, to be feared, to be what they saw as respect.

And the photograph that went out, was that ever?

And a photograph circulated to spread fear, really?

Well, one way or another, the actual photograph did spread fear.