Nicola

something to do with 20,000 and he's forwarding these stories on to them he wants to know they want to know has the history of the tracker been deleted so they won't know what day you went up to Belfast yes mate all deleted now obviously it wasn't because we've

it doesn't seem to be able to be.

No.

And they do start becoming paranoid that they have a rat in their midst.

And to be honest with you, from the evidence that's been given, from the intelligence that's coming in,

to the Gardaí about the Kinnaghan Organised Crime Group, they clearly do have somebody within their grouping who they believe is giving Gardaí the information.

Somebody, I mean, it's a tight group.

I mean, we heard how the Kinnaghan organisation operates in cell-like structures and each cell doesn't know what the other one's doing.

But this is a cell and somebody seems to know where the trackers are going, certainly the Gardaí know, at specific dates when the trackers have been put on cars.

and who they're targeting.

Well, if it's as innocent as that, perhaps, but I don't believe it to be because McGovern and Padraig Keating are getting really wound up.

So McGovern says, in my mind, someone told the old Bill about it.

And Keating agrees, yeah, there's too much info, serious info.

Don't need to see the newspapers to know it's one of our own.

We have to change tactics or we're all going to jail.

So that's between actually the three of them, including Daniel Kinahan.

Make a new plan, but you need to get out of there.

Yes, 100% defo now.

And this is when Sean McGovern leaves for Dubai.

You know, it's just shortly after this, after his arrest.