Nicole Perlroth

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1,851 appearances 14 recordings 2 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard 14 Jul

Nicole Perlroth’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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We're lucky to catch one attack.
But by the time the full picture of a campaign comes into focus, years have passed.
The data is gone.
The intellectual property is gone.
The access has already been established.
And only then does the full motive become clear.
We have to recognize that we have limits here.
There is this lurking risk that we have to be very clear about.
And so I fully suspect that if they are in the right system, that they're going to do a handoff or or at least
capture that data and pass that along.
And even if we haven't seen it, right?
And we have to recognize that we have limits here.
I have to believe that this group is not so insulated that they can't bother to pass things backwards, right?
And if they find something of value, I can't believe in a state like North Korea, you're not under some kind of very serious order
to not pass something that you think is of value to the regime.
At the end of the day, these workers aren't just workers.
They're foreign operatives working at the behest of an adversary.
In a hacking context, the IT worker's day-to-day is reconnaissance.
The data they glean, the source code they access, even build in some cases, it's exactly what hackers seek in the first half of the kill chain.
The exfiltration or detonation might not come until later, but we have to assume it will come.
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