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Nicole Perlroth

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We've seen progress. Think back to Nick Lawler in Littleton, Massachusetts. His attack was detected and rooted out by the very same agency, CISA, that's undergoing massive cuts right now. The worst thing we could do is go backwards. We have levers to pull. We have clear, established ways to shore up our security, our resilience. Doing nothing is leading us down a dangerous path.

We've seen progress. Think back to Nick Lawler in Littleton, Massachusetts. His attack was detected and rooted out by the very same agency, CISA, that's undergoing massive cuts right now. The worst thing we could do is go backwards. We have levers to pull. We have clear, established ways to shore up our security, our resilience. Doing nothing is leading us down a dangerous path.

We can demand our government representatives do more to mandate and support basic security requirements. And we can and should do this in a bipartisan way. It doesn't have to mean red tape and fines. We could offer tax credits to those that meet security standards and show that they're improving their attack surface over time.

We can demand our government representatives do more to mandate and support basic security requirements. And we can and should do this in a bipartisan way. It doesn't have to mean red tape and fines. We could offer tax credits to those that meet security standards and show that they're improving their attack surface over time.

We can and should mandate that the products we rely on are secure right out of the box and that our suppliers, whether they sell HR software or HVAC systems, meet these standards too. And very soon, if not already, we can deploy AI to do what we humans are too lazy or too overwhelmed to do on our own.

We can and should mandate that the products we rely on are secure right out of the box and that our suppliers, whether they sell HR software or HVAC systems, meet these standards too. And very soon, if not already, we can deploy AI to do what we humans are too lazy or too overwhelmed to do on our own.

We have new tools to pick up and isolate attacks in ways that simply weren't possible as recently as last year. We should find ways to democratize the use of those tools. Because at the end of the day, we exist in an ecosystem. You could be a multi-billion dollar enterprise with all the security bells and whistles.

We have new tools to pick up and isolate attacks in ways that simply weren't possible as recently as last year. We should find ways to democratize the use of those tools. Because at the end of the day, we exist in an ecosystem. You could be a multi-billion dollar enterprise with all the security bells and whistles.

But what good is that going to do you when your municipal water supply goes dry or worse? We're all in this together. And while it may feel impossible now, we can and should pursue new levers of diplomacy. We have to climb our way out of this 25-year deterrence hole we're in with China. Here's David Burbo said our live panel back in March.

But what good is that going to do you when your municipal water supply goes dry or worse? We're all in this together. And while it may feel impossible now, we can and should pursue new levers of diplomacy. We have to climb our way out of this 25-year deterrence hole we're in with China. Here's David Burbo said our live panel back in March.

In this period of rising tensions, we should absolutely expect more hacking, more IP theft, more targeting of critical infrastructure from China. But this current approach to China, it's not the solution. In many ways, it's too late. Listen, we let China take some of our most valuable assets. our IP. We looked away as companies went bankrupt, factories shut down, entire towns were hollowed out.

In this period of rising tensions, we should absolutely expect more hacking, more IP theft, more targeting of critical infrastructure from China. But this current approach to China, it's not the solution. In many ways, it's too late. Listen, we let China take some of our most valuable assets. our IP. We looked away as companies went bankrupt, factories shut down, entire towns were hollowed out.

I believe that economic devastation helped sow the resentment that is shaping much of our current politics. But what no one ever talks about is the hacking. In an ideal world, my view is we would have exacted tariffs on China 15 years ago, stiff tariffs, or even outright bans on any Chinese product that relied on our own stolen IP.

I believe that economic devastation helped sow the resentment that is shaping much of our current politics. But what no one ever talks about is the hacking. In an ideal world, my view is we would have exacted tariffs on China 15 years ago, stiff tariffs, or even outright bans on any Chinese product that relied on our own stolen IP.

And ideally, we would have done this together with our allies to make sure that these Chinese copycats didn't eat up our global market share and wipe out our companies and factories. And then, and again, this is Nicole's ideal world here, we would have all ratcheted up those tariffs and upped the pain each and every time we caught Chinese hackers rifling through our critical infrastructure.

And ideally, we would have done this together with our allies to make sure that these Chinese copycats didn't eat up our global market share and wipe out our companies and factories. And then, and again, this is Nicole's ideal world here, we would have all ratcheted up those tariffs and upped the pain each and every time we caught Chinese hackers rifling through our critical infrastructure.

Instead, we let them do all of this for free. But what we're doing now, this impulsive trade war we're in, where we carve out exemptions for some but not others, implement one tariff rate one day, another the next, it's not deterrence. Deterrence requires coherent policy and universal enforcement. And we can't do it on our own. We need allies in this fight.

Instead, we let them do all of this for free. But what we're doing now, this impulsive trade war we're in, where we carve out exemptions for some but not others, implement one tariff rate one day, another the next, it's not deterrence. Deterrence requires coherent policy and universal enforcement. And we can't do it on our own. We need allies in this fight.

And in case you've been living under a rock lately, we're losing our allies, left and right. Just this month, May, the Democracy Perception Index released a survey of 96 countries. For the first time ever, the vast majority, nearly 80%, said they held a more favorable view of China than the United States. And that, that might be the most glaring red warning light of all.

And in case you've been living under a rock lately, we're losing our allies, left and right. Just this month, May, the Democracy Perception Index released a survey of 96 countries. For the first time ever, the vast majority, nearly 80%, said they held a more favorable view of China than the United States. And that, that might be the most glaring red warning light of all.