Nicole Perlroth

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1,851 appearances 14 recordings 2 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard 14 Jul

Nicole Perlroth’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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They're all borrowing the model now.

Cyber crime groups, not in North Korea, are like, oh, wow, that's smart.

Let's start doing that.

Absolutely.

We've got North Koreans using Nigerians as their subcontractors.

We've also got Nigerians just being like, we're going to do this ourselves.

So again, that Prince, the Nigerian Prince scam that came back, it's almost like he's back.

He's back and he's got all his friends here to work with us now.

The problem is, is that they're adapting anything that we do.

The criminals are adapting so quickly.

So by the time you get information out, by the time this comes out, they're going to be doing something even different.

North Korea will definitely listen to this podcast or get the reporting that comes off of it and adapt their tactics.

North Korea industrialized the IT worker model, but pulling this off still requires people and manual labor.

Elaborate fake identities are hard to craft.

Passing a screening interview takes time, technique, and tact.

Charming laptop farmers, recruiting Americans to show up for your drug test, it's a tough gig to say the least.

And for some, writing convincing English is challenging.

Until now.

Artificial intelligence has helped cyber grift reach new heights.

AI didn't invent this playbook, but it removes almost every obstacle to running it.

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