Nicole Perlroth

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1,851 appearances 14 recordings 2 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard 14 Jul

Nicole Perlroth’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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And if it isn't abundantly clear by now, North Koreans aren't just early adopters, they're pioneers with crypto and now AI.

Here's John Holquist again.

Interestingly, they were like the early adopters of AI because the first applications of AI were really in the social engineering space, right?

What it was very good at at the beginning was fabricating content, right?

That's like, you know, started off with fake pictures, right?

And then it was sort of fake text, translating things, right?

There's a whole family of third-party apps that are based on this technology that

offer very specific use cases.

So we could see them using it to brush up their resume or their cover letter.

One of the big ones we could see them use it for was faking identities, right?

As AI has gotten better, we could see them progress from these static uses to these dynamic uses.

So not an image, but a video, right?

Not just like a single translated document,

but a conversation where they can essentially do multi-turns.

And that's really powerful if your play is social engineering, right?

Cause you imagine these guys are from Pyongyang and they're computer nerds from Pyongyang.

So they've got like two strikes against them and their job is to go out, pretend to be an HR person from like California, right?

That's a huge lift.

Imagine if you're like, you know, you live in Pyongyang, your accent would probably be a dead giveaway on some of these scenarios.

So you would use deep fake voice to cover that.

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