Nicole Perlroth

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To Catch a Thief: North Korea On Our Payroll · Ep. 6: The North Korea Model · 14 Jul 2026 podcast

You know, one of the incidents we saw is we could see them essentially use deep fake video to convince a person that they were a cryptocurrency executive, right?

And so the game is, I think they reached out through a compromised Telegram account, set up a fake Zoom call.

They get into the fake Zoom call.

They've got this deep fake video.

And then the ploy is, there's something wrong with the audio.

Here, I'm going to walk you through some technical instructions on how to fix your audio.

The technical instructions are essentially like malicious instructions.

Next thing you know, you've infected your machine.

And so the deepfake stuff is showing up more and more.

And we could see them sort of screwing around with it in places like Gemini.

It's been a huge uplift for their social engineering capabilities.

Deepfakes deserve a moment here.

And for that, I'll bring in my friend, Hani.

I am Hani Fareed.

I am both a professor at the University of California, Berkeley, soon to be at Dartmouth College, and I'm the co-founder and chief science officer over at Get Real Security.

I focus on authenticating digital media from images to audio to video.

Okay, and not to make you blush, but you're sort of the world's foremost expert in deep fakes, but you were studying this long before North Koreans started using this in interviews.

Give us the state of play.

Where have the deep fakes come into play?

So let me tell you some of the things that we have absolutely been seeing.

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