Nicole Perlroth
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1,851 appearances
14 recordings
2 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard 14 Jul
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If I was an Iranian who had just survived this war, I'd probably think it's time to follow Kim Jong-un's strategy.
But the fact of the matter is they now have 60 or more nuclear weapons.
Some analysts think it's probably closer to 100, which would put them at comparable to the arsenals of Pakistan and Israel.
And that's where the money's going.
And yes, the weapons program gets the lion's share, but not every stolen dollar ends up in a missile silo.
Munitions get priority funding.
But Kim Jong-un has another line item.
His toys.
But Kim's top priority has always been his nuclear arsenal.
And year after year, while the world was focused elsewhere, North Korea kept advancing, right under our noses.
You know, one of the things that astounds me in this job is that Donald Trump did not raise the alarm about North Korea.
He's barely talked about North Korea.
And every time he does is to tell everybody what a warm relationship he's got with Kim Jong-un.
But relationships aren't disarmament, and neither is our inattention.
And while Washington moved on to Iran, to Ukraine, to China, to whatever crisis was breaking that day, North Korea kept building—
Not suddenly, not secretly exactly, but in the space created by our assumption that this is still a backward, isolated country, we can afford to underestimate.
It tells you how much the North Koreans rely on us thinking about them as a backward society whose people are eating grass forever.
because they've got nothing else and where the smokestacks are all silent as they were when I was in North Korea more than 30 years ago.
If it wasn't for nuclear weapons, how much thought would we all give every day to North Korea?
Not much.
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