Nicole Perlroth
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1,851 appearances
14 recordings
2 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard 14 Jul
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And that's a very important thing because we've seen them interchange at times.
That's Barney, aka Michael Barnhart, DTEX's lead insider intelligence analyst.
He admits that this overlap makes it harder to track their ever-evolving strategy.
I want them to be in tiny little beautiful buckets and I can just be like, this one does this and this one does this.
but that's by design too now the thing that's very interesting is like for the i.t working force there are several levels you've got your i.t workers that are just completely revenue generation and they're like very low level like it's like slave labor the human rights elements for them is really really it's terrible and then you have your more elevated ones the elevated ones always seem to be on those crypto units and it's interesting because they get certain privileges
But the IT workers that are embedded with the actual hacking groups, or at least assigned or associated with them, are very interesting.
What Barney started seeing in 2024 set off alarm bells.
For the first time, he was catching communications between North Korea's remote IT workers and the elite hacking units he'd spent more than a decade tracking.
Groups like Undariel, the hacking unit behind Sony and ransomware assaults on US hospitals.
And Trader Trader, the North Korean crew behind Bybit and the crypto heist.
They were talking.
It's something that blew my mind because we've started seeing IT workers in their operations and Daryl should not be talking to these IT workers.
And I remember just sitting there like, what is going on here?
Like, is this wrong?
What is this?
And you start peeling the onion back and you say, oh, all these other accounts are all IT workers.
Oh, these are all the hacking group.
And I'm like, okay, so they're just with them, right?
Like, no, they're actually helping them with operations.
Some of these hacking groups are actually managers and they're overseeing some of these IT working teams and helping each other.
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