Nicole Perlroth

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1,851 appearances 14 recordings 2 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard 14 Jul

Nicole Perlroth’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Now, from our perspective, it felt like these individuals were learning how to extort companies.
That last line is one that should make every company sit up.
Because this is no longer just about North Korean workers collecting salaries under false pretenses.
It's about the data and access they gain along the way.
And what happens to it when the lie collapses.
By the end of 2024, we knew about hundreds of Fortune 500 companies that had unintentionally hired a North Korean IT worker where they lost a fair amount of data because these employees, once they were caught, they didn't return their laptops in most situations.
They kept their laptop and whatever data that they needed.
So that data was out the door.
It was gone.
And our fear was throughout 2025, possibly some of this data that was taken could show up in the future.
Could this data be used to facilitate future attacks?
It absolutely could be used.
For years, there seemed to be a clear division of labor.
The IT workers earned money.
The hackers stole it.
But by 2024, that line had blurred.
Researchers started catching handoffs between the IT workers and the elite hacking units.
The walls were breaking down.
Not all IT workers can be hackers.
Every hacker at any point can be an IT worker.
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