Nicole Wallace

Stop me if you've heard this one before.

A former mayor, a military expert, and a college professor walk into a bar.

Well, not exactly a bar, more like a podcast studio.

It's a tale as old as time, but this week I knew I had to do something special.

This

This conversation was sparked by a fiery conversation we had on the broadcast, but this one comes without the constraints of television or commercials or rules against swearing.

My guests today are three of the best people I know, three of the best people I get to talk to about everything.

And today we push them further than we've ever pushed them before.

So, without any further ado, Princeton University Professor Eddie Glaude, former mayor of New Orleans Mitch Landrieu, and Atlantic staff writer Tom Nichols, welcome to The Best People.

That's it for the politeness.

I think what I really want to ask you guys is about the assholes trying to destroy the country and the ordinary people with so much more skin in the game, so much more courage when their moment to choose whether to do the brave and uncomfortable thing comes to them saying yes, while the people to whom the country has given everything, everything, seem to capitulate every single time they're in the batter's box.

Eddie, I'll start with you on that.

Maybe you're not as surprised and horrified by it as I am.

I mean, Mitch, in the vacuum being created, though, are people.

I started the 5 p.m.

hour with a counselor and coach who went viral.

Three million people watched him at his first ever protest.

And if you could just tell me again why you said that you came out tonight.

Such a simple idea.

To him, it was a fucking atrocity that fourth and fifth graders were running from their government, not from criminals, not from the worst of the worst, from their government, from masked men who work for all of us as American taxpayers.