Nicolle Wallace

The public revolt was so forceful that they put him back on the air.

And I think there's something in that strength that I would have hoped would have been a model.

But instead, as you say, the CBS model is going the opposite direction to destroy the preeminent brand in journalism in this country in 60 Minutes by yanking a piece that was vetted through 60 Minutes' extraordinary standards.

And then putting a journalist like Tony in the position of doing this weird interview with Trump last night where Trump said weird things.

Well, he's been president for a year.

Like, why is that the case?

Loved him.

It was the weirdest live event I've covered in 10 years of covering Trump live.

He loved him.

He let him call him a fascist in front of him because he liked him so much.

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They're all like flaunting their like insecurities a little too closely.

They don't even fight him.

Well, and how is that not more...

associated with masculinity.

Like someday someone will have to sit me down and explain how a guy that wouldn't go to a World War I cemetery in Europe because he didn't want to dampen his hair is like our icon of masculine aspiration.

I don't actually even understand it.

And I think that, and maybe this is my age, right?

I think masculinity is