Nicolle Wallace

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As we wake up as though we are living out the lyrics of Billy Joel's, We Didn't Start the Fire, I start my day with Heather Cox Richardson.

Since the first time she appeared on the Best People podcast, I've had Ken Burns and other world-renowned historians, authors, actors, politicians, government leaders, economists, titans of business tell me they start their day the very same way.

So when we woke up to what felt like a new world order,

We knew we had to have her back this week.

An encore performance for our own personal democracy rock star, Heather Cox Richardson is back with us.

Thank you so much for saying yes.

It's such a pleasure to be with you always.

It's so cool that we have had one conversation because now I can forever associate myself with you.

When you come up, I can say, oh, I interviewed her for the Best People podcast.

You are not just one of the best people that we've had a chance to talk to.

You really are this voice that cuts through and you do cut across every single kind of person I come in contact with.

Everyone is listening to you.

And so when you have this analysis, like what you've had over the last seven days, I just have to hit pause and lift it up and make sure everyone hears the things you're saying.

So I wonder if we can just go through really the recent events and the things you've written and try to pull you through the moment we're living in with Donald Trump's

I don't even know what to call it, operation in Venezuela, the decision to use special forces to remove Maduro and his wife from Venezuela and bring him to New York.

It feels like the operation and everything he's said since then represents an incredibly perilous moment, not just for our country, but as you've written, for the world order as we know it.

Like water, right?

Like they blocked off one path in the maze, so he's flowing down another.