Nicolle Wallace

It seems like destruction.

I mean, CBS has just posted its worst.

Correct.

I mean, if building is about building an audience, destruction seems to be about... When I was on my tour, there's a lot of media obsession with CBS, and I get it.

It's interesting.

The interesting characters.

It's just the first thing that Ellison has destroyed, in my view.

Except, did he destroy it or was it on its way?

He's just destroying it faster.

I mean, I think that's what you have to ask yourself.

I went on Twitter and I said, show of hands, like everyone in every city was like, tell us about CBS.

It's the end of democracy.

And I said, show of hands, show of hands, how many of you watched a CBS news program recently?

Nobody, because the age is very high.

It doesn't have ratings.

And one of the things I was trying to point out to people is like my pivot podcast, and by the way, the Manosphere ones, all of them, not just the Manosphere, the Travis Kelsey one, whatever the one you want to pick.

My demo, 25 to 34, is bigger than most cable shows.

So what's happening here?

The audience is still there.

It's just where they are.