Nicolle Wallace

He's more unpopular than Biden was.

Why are they still capitulating?

Well, here's the other thing.

If you're in that group, right?

If you are someone who wants to roll with Donald Trump, right?

He can't stand wusses.

And so to act like such a sack of weakness is the least appealing thing to him.

The people that he respects and fixates on aren't the ones that could pitch.

He has no use for Kevin McCarthy.

And what good did it do Kevin McCarthy to pick out all the color of starbursts that Donald Trump wanted from the jar and give him this?

He thinks that's lame.

It's so lame.

So the capitulation is... Well, and I think Jimmy Kimmel is the counterfactual, right?

I can barely figure out how to get the streamers to work, but to have millions of people cancel Disney and Hulu is a big thing that millions of individual Americans did.

because the FCC bullied Disney.

They took Kimmel off the air.

The public revolt was so forceful that they put him back on the air.

And I think there's something in that strength that I would have hoped would have been a model.

But instead, as you say, the CBS model is going the opposite direction to destroy the preeminent brand in journalism in this country in 60 Minutes by yanking a piece that was vetted through 60 Minutes' extraordinary standards.

And then putting a journalist like Tony in the position of doing this weird interview with Trump last night where Trump said weird things.