Nicolle Wallace

I mean, I think the other thing is generational.

Right.

I mean, he's not just him and his very popular podcast.

He's got a whole world of comedians that go to Austin and work for him.

And they are sort of trying to win the future.

And you don't win the future wrapping your arms around a militarized police force in the streets of American cities.

This is not American.

And like, whatever you think of cops broadly, none of them talk like that.

I mean, Bad Apple does, and that's when it's news, but none of them talk like that.

This is not about law enforcement.

This is about something else.

What I wonder is how far they'll sort of tolerate the protests.

I mean, we know how much he hated the No Kings protests.

Polls suggest that more Americans associate themselves with the No Kings movement than MAGA, so they're less popular.

than the No Kings protests.

I covered the events last week.

I think it's sort of barreling through a threshold to shoot an American citizen dead with the cameras rolling, deny her any medical care at the moment, at least with the cameras captured, and then have the president defensive enough in a room full of New York Times reporters that he rolls the tape and says, see, see, see, and the tape doesn't show what he says at all.

And I do wonder, you know, like— That's the part that—I mean, I've asked you about this.

Like, his brand is in the toilet.

He's as unpopular as he was during COVID.