Nicolle Wallace

Like, they were like, where's a nice venue to go visit some kids for Mrs. Bush? Like, it's all out in the open.

Like, even if it's wildly successful, it's not a billionaire truck dealership.

Like, even if it's wildly successful, it's not a billionaire truck dealership.

Well, I also think if you go to the most fundamental thing that they're doing, they're moving human beings.

Well, I also think if you go to the most fundamental thing that they're doing, they're moving human beings.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think if you pump the brakes right there, what the public thinks it's for is deporting back to home countries people who are adjudicated criminals. New York Times-Siena's got like 87% of people that are for that. That's largely what Obama did. That is not where any of the time and energy has been spent.

And I think if you pump the brakes right there, what the public thinks it's for is deporting back to home countries people who are adjudicated criminals. New York Times-Siena's got like 87% of people that are for that. That's largely what Obama did. That is not where any of the time and energy has been spent.

And so all of the movement of human beings to countries from which they are not, for crimes that they can't prove were committed, for people that it's not even clear they presented evidence to anyone. I mean, I just find it all so surreal. I find the fact that everyone seems... It doesn't feel like a partisan statement to say due process is a thing we're still for.

And so all of the movement of human beings to countries from which they are not, for crimes that they can't prove were committed, for people that it's not even clear they presented evidence to anyone. I mean, I just find it all so surreal. I find the fact that everyone seems... It doesn't feel like a partisan statement to say due process is a thing we're still for.

And I, like you, have driven by some of the protests on some of the big weekend protest days. And to see people holding up the signs for due process, like, made my, you know, democracy-worried heart sing. But the other piece of it is the movement of humans. Like, I'm not sure that we should be moving humans anywhere.

And I, like you, have driven by some of the protests on some of the big weekend protest days. And to see people holding up the signs for due process, like, made my, you know, democracy-worried heart sing. But the other piece of it is the movement of humans. Like, I'm not sure that we should be moving humans anywhere.

I'm not sure that any part of our politics ever contemplated anything other than deporting adjudicated criminals back to their home countries.

I'm not sure that any part of our politics ever contemplated anything other than deporting adjudicated criminals back to their home countries.

Well, I think, I mean, to the people enjoying the other things they're doing, I think the people that voted for him because they thought they would understand the other things that he was doing made a bad bet on the economy. And I mean, I'm I'm so, you know, like a moth to the flame. to the extraordinary abuse of power of moving humans around.

Well, I think, I mean, to the people enjoying the other things they're doing, I think the people that voted for him because they thought they would understand the other things that he was doing made a bad bet on the economy. And I mean, I'm I'm so, you know, like a moth to the flame. to the extraordinary abuse of power of moving humans around.

I mean, I really, the first story I read about the group of young men sent to Venezuela has just stuck in my gut and not in an everyday sense. I mean, the idea that an innocent, you know, gay hairdresser is sitting there still, it's been two months. I mean, how is he? You know, is he okay? Is he alive? Has he had a phone call? Did he do anything wrong? No one's ever... So to me, those stories...

I mean, I really, the first story I read about the group of young men sent to Venezuela has just stuck in my gut and not in an everyday sense. I mean, the idea that an innocent, you know, gay hairdresser is sitting there still, it's been two months. I mean, how is he? You know, is he okay? Is he alive? Has he had a phone call? Did he do anything wrong? No one's ever... So to me, those stories...

just sort of wrought my faith in humanity. That he did this and that people are okay with it, I mean, just makes me... Question everything.