Nicolle Wallace

And having respect for voters is a really good thing.

But this idea that we have to be centrist or this, you don't have to, you have to be who you are.

And that's what, that's the one thing online does.

You are found out if you are not genuine.

And you could trick people and do propaganda.

But one thing that Donald Trump is, he's genuine.

He's genuinely awful, but he's genuine.

It's who he is.

Yeah.

And I think that's one of the reasons he's so successful online.

Did you get any sense from Tillis that there are any regrets about not being who they were and letting the differences?

Well, he had a good point about like martyrs, you know, you know what martyrs have in common, they're all dead.

Like he was like, you couldn't like I can now say what everybody else wants to say.

But had I done it when I was trying to run, I would have not been able to run.

Like, that's their excuse, right?

He's correct in saying that it was impossible to get elected if he was honest.

And they're totally honest.

And he could work behind the scenes.

And I think he's right.

He has more leverage than ever before.