Nicolle Wallace

But I think everyone wants to be connected to other people who see the survival of our democracy as the vital first, second and third mission of our time. Right. Like, what do we want to leave behind? And I keep thinking of your interview with Liz Cheney, where she's like, I want to come back. Right. We don't fight with you about taxes. But right now we have to save our economy.

And I think about that interview and I think about this moment and I think about the first time I met you was after I'd written my first novel. And it was after Sarah Palin had thrown me under the bus and I sort of realized that everything I'd been a part of – Not everything, but a lot of what I've been a part of wasn't what I thought it was.

And I think about that interview and I think about this moment and I think about the first time I met you was after I'd written my first novel. And it was after Sarah Palin had thrown me under the bus and I sort of realized that everything I'd been a part of – Not everything, but a lot of what I've been a part of wasn't what I thought it was.

And this thing that you're describing about Trump voters, like people say, how does it end? It ends when there's space given for people to say, yeah, I thought I liked what he was doing, but it was a lie. And I decided at the end of the day, I want to pass a democracy on because in an autocracy, you know, children that are sick don't have the benefit of science.

And this thing that you're describing about Trump voters, like people say, how does it end? It ends when there's space given for people to say, yeah, I thought I liked what he was doing, but it was a lie. And I decided at the end of the day, I want to pass a democracy on because in an autocracy, you know, children that are sick don't have the benefit of science.

I mean, pediatric cancer research is what they cut. And I feel like I haven't even started to figure out how to tell those stories. But your sort of curiosity and faith in what you're seeing in the country, I think, has totally infected the whole network and all of your peers. And it's so important.

I mean, pediatric cancer research is what they cut. And I feel like I haven't even started to figure out how to tell those stories. But your sort of curiosity and faith in what you're seeing in the country, I think, has totally infected the whole network and all of your peers. And it's so important.

I mean, I've said this to you, you know, without a camera on, but at a time when everyone was sort of looking to who's going to sort of hold the flashlight. Like, I don't even know that we're going to get out of this moment, right? We're over the cliff and we'll see what happens. This is where we are. who's going to hold the flashlight?

I mean, I've said this to you, you know, without a camera on, but at a time when everyone was sort of looking to who's going to sort of hold the flashlight. Like, I don't even know that we're going to get out of this moment, right? We're over the cliff and we'll see what happens. This is where we are. who's going to hold the flashlight?

And so the way, not just holding the flashlight, but like everyone you shine it on, it's everything. Well, you too, my dear.

And so the way, not just holding the flashlight, but like everyone you shine it on, it's everything. Well, you too, my dear.

Really? You had me at Dilly Dally and then you sort of woke me back up with the fashion. Like I'm born to Dilly.

Really? You had me at Dilly Dally and then you sort of woke me back up with the fashion. Like I'm born to Dilly.

I said that to one of our bosses. She called to check in, and I said, I'm just going to wring the heck out of the First Amendment as long as we have it. I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to rock this free press as long as we've got one. Like, yeah, let's do this. But it does feel more precious when threatened.

I said that to one of our bosses. She called to check in, and I said, I'm just going to wring the heck out of the First Amendment as long as we have it. I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to rock this free press as long as we've got one. Like, yeah, let's do this. But it does feel more precious when threatened.

Thank you for doing this. I know how busy you are. I know the pull of the microfiche, and now you're... We love you. Love you, darling. Thank you. Thank you so much. The Best People is produced by Vicki Vergolina and senior producer Lisa Ferry, with additional support from Rana Shabazi. Our audio engineers are Bob Mallory, Katie Lau, and Mark Yoshizumi.

Thank you for doing this. I know how busy you are. I know the pull of the microfiche, and now you're... We love you. Love you, darling. Thank you. Thank you so much. The Best People is produced by Vicki Vergolina and senior producer Lisa Ferry, with additional support from Rana Shabazi. Our audio engineers are Bob Mallory, Katie Lau, and Mark Yoshizumi.

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Hi everybody, it's Nicole Wallace. I'm excited to tell you about my new podcast, The Best People with Nicole Wallace. What is The Best People? Well, it's an invitation inside my shortlist of the smartest, funniest, wisest, most creative people I've been blessed to encounter. either personally or professionally, as a journalist, as a mom, sometimes just as a fan. The best people inspire me.