Nicolle Wallace

We end up with a deadly insurrection.

You got to know Michael Fanone.

Sometimes he feels like

like a character in a movie, like this one man bulwark against Trump.

He faces threats.

What do you make of the fact that the people that tased him and almost killed him were pardoned?

And he's sort of out there.

I mean, he has some powerful friends and allies, but we're not the government.

What do you think it's like to be someone who was beaten up on January 6th and now you face like a president who pardoned the people who hurt you physically?

You told me a story about campaigning in 2024 in Pennsylvania, a really contested battleground, and some young men who believed the lies that had been told about 2020.

How does that happen?

How do we undo that?

Were they nice?

So they were unashamed of believing the lies.

What is it about being out there that's so scary to a lot of people in Hollywood?

Trump is so spiteful and threatens people that speak out, especially famous people.

Are you afraid of him?

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When we're back, much, much more with legendary actor Robert De Niro.

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