Nicolle Wallace

What do you think of the optics of all of the most successful people, the people, to your point, to whom America gave the most, right?

Tim Cook.

Yeah.

Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, you know, the people who've built these gigantic companies in America, standing next to him as he's inaugurated, basically saying, it's ours.

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What would you say to those guys now after seeing how bad it is?

I mean, I feel like everyone should have known how bad it would be, but what would you say to them now?

Yeah.

Dangerous, for sure.

What do you envision for the story that the pro-democracy side can tell leading up to the elections?

Because the Democrats seem to still fight amongst themselves like it's normal times.

And I feel like in some ways I'm a more enthusiastic Democratic voter because I view this like Liz Cheney.

I view it like Liz Cheney or Dick Cheney.

You know, Dick Cheney, the end of his life endorsed Kamala Harris.

You know, like at the end of the day, Dick Cheney understood that it was about the democracy.

And I wonder how, what story do we tell on the pro-democracy side?

You think about how Jack Smith, you know.

God bless him, Jack Smith.

You know, he's testified even with Trump in power, threatening him with all sorts of things.