Nicolle Wallace

Joe Rogan and Andrew Schultz have been brutal.

And a lot of it is rooted in the lie around the Epstein files.

Do you have any theory on why they're taking on so much political water?

I mean, I don't have any inside information, but they're taking on all this political water in their own base over the Epstein issue.

And it's confounding because it seems to be dragging Trump down on every other issue.

Rosie Perez said something about that.

She's on my podcast this week and she said, I'm so scared.

I said, why?

She said, well, I'm afraid that the right will call me names and an idiot, but I'm afraid of the left too.

I fly a little blind to that sort of coming out of the right of politics.

I am attuned to and I hear and see all of their attacks on me.

I'm a little less sensitive to the

what you're talking about, what she's talking about.

But do you have a sense that that's getting any better, that the urgent need to win elections, every one of them for a long time, is healing anything in their party or in their politics?

I have the same concerns.

I always love to talk to you.

You've been so generous with your time.

Is there anything that's on your mind from where you sit across the pond that I didn't ask you about?

Over Epstein, right?

Let me ask you one more question about how they are handling the release of the Epstein files.