Nigel Brennan

And that's what I ate for over 100 days, morning and night.

So morning tinned tuna at night with a bread roll and sometimes some pasta or something like that.

He used to come in, in that first day, he would sit there and just stare at us for like 40 minutes and say nothing.

It was just like, okay, this is awkward.

But yeah, they came in and basically said,

who are you what are you doing in in somalia and we explained who we were where we're from that we're freelancers they then very quickly said we believe that your spy is working for the transitional government which amanda and i basically um laughed at and said you know if you've got the internet which i'm sure you do even in somalia like if you if you do a simple google search you'll find information about us and you'll see that we're telling the truth and stuff so

They disappeared for 20, 30 minutes, something like that.

And then they came back and they said, look, we believe that you are journalists, but unfortunately, Nigel, because you come from Australia and Amanda, because you come from Canada, both of your countries are at war with Islam at the moment because they have forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Therefore, we are going to basically hold you for ransom and we're going to demand money from your governments.

We said to them, like, neither of our countries will pay.

And they said, every government pays.

Every single government in the world will pay for a citizen.

They'll just do it under the table.

It's like trying to...

Not argue with them, but trying to get that point across that in this case they were wrong and there was no way that the Australian government or the Canadian government were going to pay a cent for either of us.

And they said, look, we're not interested in money from your families.

We only want money from the government.

We're not going to involve your families at all.

And I think, you know, some of the, I don't know, humour that's involved in the kidnapping when they said to me, what's the number for the Australian government?

And it's just like...