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Chapter 1: What led to Nigel Brennan and Amanda Lindhout's kidnapping in Somalia?
It's 2008 in Somalia. Nigel Brennan and Amanda Lindhout just had their world ended in an instant. A car stopped, guns raised, and just like that, two journalists who had gone to Somalia to tell other people's stories became one.
What Nigel and Amanda were now facing is something most of us will never experience, but something that is actually far more common across the world than most people realise. Between 20,000 and 30,000 kidnapped for ransom incidents are reported worldwide every year.
If I don't get what I want, after 24 hours, all of them will be killed.
This is our 27th day in captivity. So far, we have been provided with adequate food and water and facilities. And so we are unharmed and in reasonable physical health. Mentally, we are under great stress and threatened.
And experts believe those figures are merely the tip of the iceberg because one of the first instructions kidnappers usually give is do not tell the authorities. Nobody knows how many cases never actually get reported at all. Some kidnap experts estimate that only 11% of kidnapped victims are freed without a ransom being paid.
And when a ransom is paid, only around 40% of those taken will return home. Of everyone taken hostage for ransom around the world, in war zones, conflict regions, in countries where life is cheap and foreign nationals are seen as a walking paycheck, only a fraction will make it home in one piece.
And the ones who do are often changed so profoundly by what had happened to them that the person who comes back is not quite the same person who was taken. Nigel and Amanda were now part of those statistics. Bundled into a vehicle, disappearing into one of the most lawless countries on earth, with no guarantee that anyone would ever find them, or that finding them would even be enough.
Their 15-month nightmare had only just begun.
Chapter 4. If the ransom isn't paid in 24 hours, we'll execute you.
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Chapter 2: How does the psychological impact of captivity manifest in Nigel and Amanda?
they obviously thought she was trying to hide something so when she got back into the room they came in and like i was they walked in and they basically told me to close my eyes um um and obviously which i did listening to what they were telling me to do and then put their hands down amanda's breasts and down her pants which she screamed at um and it was just like okay this this isn't just a meeting this is more sinister for sure
And then from then it was, I guess, over the next few hours, you know, I was fortunate at that stage to have a packet of cigarettes and was smoking like an absolute fiend because I think in a stressful time it was just like, this is going to calm me down. It probably didn't. They came in, they wanted our passports, they wanted our cash. And it was interesting.
The one thing that I did do the morning before we left, when I did have that, I guess, intuition, I was carrying my passport and I was carrying almost 2,000 euros in currency. And I actually said, I'm going to leave this at the hotel. And I put it in the manager's office. But they're like, where are your passports? They're at the hotel. Where's your cash? It's like, we don't have any cash.
Obviously, I had my camera bags with two digital cameras and a film camera. And lenses and those sorts of things, they weren't interested in that. I still had my mobile phone in my back pocket at this stage and was thinking about, do I try and call someone?
Chapter 3: What statistics highlight the prevalence of kidnappings for ransom worldwide?
Obviously, just completely full of fear, too, that if I get caught with that, then what are the ramifications for it? And then maybe an hour after we got to that compound, they came in and they looked at me and they were like, mobile phone. And I was just like...
don't have to ask me twice but yeah that those first you know few hours were really intimidating having masked gunmen sort of come in and point ak-47s at you and and look the room that they put us in was um you know a dilapidated old sort of lean-to with a with a dirty old stained mattress um and it was just like this this looks sort of like um bangkok elton but worse
It's all happening so fast, just out of nowhere, you know, all of a sudden you've been taken. You don't know where you are, you don't know who these people are. Does anything go through your mind or is it happening so fast that you don't really have time to think?
No, like Amanda and I are obviously talking and we're like, have we been kidnapped? Like, shit, we've been kidnapped. Like, I think it is that, but I still think there's that...
think even that trauma response of is this real is this actually is this happening is this a dream am i going to wake up back in the hotel and this is just something i'm foreseeing in my future or um but it was yeah like we're obviously talking to one another and Um, cause I can remember the room was, it was sort of a pink painted color and Amanda's like, this is a good sign.
Pink's my safe color. And it's just like, oh my God, what? Um, so that was sort of, you know, there were funny things like that. And it wasn't until look later that evening, um, when, uh, You know, they had come in during the day and, what do you want? Water? Cigarettes? Are you hungry? It's just like, yeah. What do you want to eat? And I was like, I don't want any meat. Can you get tinned tuna?
And that's what I ate for over 100 days, morning and night. So morning tinned tuna at night with a bread roll and sometimes some pasta or something like that.
Their first night in captivity, four men would come into the room. One being Ahmed, the man who'd been in the vehicle with them when they were kidnapped. Another man who called himself Adam and would be the group's negotiator when it came to ransom money.
There was an older gentleman referred to as Captain Yaya and another guy who remained masked and it would seem would be acting as the more intimidating member of the group.
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Chapter 4: What strategies did Nigel and Amanda employ to survive their captivity?
Nigel and Amanda are now stuck in a foreign country, being held hostage by a group that says if they don't get their money within 24 hours, they will be dead. The reality of their situation hits home even harder later that evening.
You know, later that night, we were allowed to actually leave the room and sit outside on a mat outside. And it was dark and sitting outside smoking and talking to Amanda. And obviously the guys that had taken us were listening to the BB World Service in Somali. And I can remember hearing Australian-Canadian journalists kidnapped.
And it's just like there's the hand grenade that I've just lobbed into my family's home.
Wow.
literally just lobbed a hand grenade and someone's going to have to jump on it.
How was it in the news so quickly?
I think whether a juice was made aware and I guess, you know, obviously very few Westerners in Mogadishu and when two Westerners go missing, that would be fairly hot news, I would reckon.
Obviously, you're now sitting there not only with the fear of, you know, becoming one of these videos and death, but I'm assuming quite a bit of guilt.
Well, I don't think that it sort of kicked in at that stage, but it was like, you know, mum and dad had sold their family farm in 2005 and it had set them up for a comfortable retirement. At that stage, our group hadn't informed us what they were asking for. It was only days later they found out that the initial demand was US$3 million for the two of us.
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