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Nikesh Arora

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522 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Yeah, there's no data entry.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

That's an interesting point, yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Let's talk about national security for a second.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

I just want to maybe zoom out.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

So the one side of mythos, as you said, is like the value that it has to you and to enterprises

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

The red team version of mythos is where foreign state actors can essentially create economic havoc inside of a country.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

As these models escalate in their capability, what do you think should happen when these models are ready?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Username and password.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

My password is password.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

It's less about cracking some PG&E power generation facility.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

It's more economic chaos.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Yes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

And so what do we do?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Do you think that there's a world in which these models become so good that you could see yourself advocating for more nationalism around how they're controlled and how they're managed and where we point them?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Or do you think there should be maybe a set of these models that never see the light of day, that only the NSA and other folks could have access to, or guys like you?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

You want a control plane, a harness, and then... That's right.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Say that again?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

The entire weights?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

That's incredible.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nikesh Arora: Mythos is Real, Analytical SaaS is Dead, and Google can be a $10T company

Let me slightly pivot for a second.