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Nilay Patel

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

It's edited by Ursa Wright.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Our editorial director is Kevin McShane.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

We'll see you next time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Today, let's talk about the camera company Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Hello, and welcome to Decoder.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

I'm Nilay Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

You probably saw this ad during the Super Bowl a couple weekends ago.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Since it aired for a massive audience at the Super Bowl, Ring's search party commercial has become a lightning rod for controversy.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

It's easy to see how the same technology that can be used to find lost dogs can also be used to find people, and then used to invade our privacy in all kinds of uncomfortable ways, by cops and regular people alike.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And Ring, in particular, has always been proud of its cooperation with law enforcement, which has raised big questions about civil rights.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Especially because Ring had proudly announced a partnership with a company called Flock Safety, whose systems have been accessed by ICE.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

There's some complication to that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

We'll come back to it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Anyway, the backlash to that ring ad was swift, intense, and effective.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

The data company Peak Metrics says conversation about the ad on social media platforms like X actually hit a high two days after the Super Bowl.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And the vibes, as they measured them, were strikingly negative.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

I mean, you know it's bad when Matt Nelson, who runs We Rate Dogs, is posting things like this.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Senator Ed Markey called the ad dystopian and said it was proof that Amazon, which owns Ring, needed to cease all facial recognition technology on Ring doorbells.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

He said, quote, "'This definitely isn't about dogs.