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Nilay Patel

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

It's about mass surveillance.'"

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And then on Thursday, February 12th, just four days after the Super Bowl, Ring announced that it was canceling its partnership with Flock in a statement first reported by The Verge's Jen Toohey.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

That statement is itself a lot.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Ring says, quote, following a comprehensive review, we determined the planned Flock safety integration would require significantly more time and resources than anticipated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

As a result, we have made the joint decision to cancel the planned integration.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

The integration never launched, so no Ring customer videos were ever sent to Flock Safety.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Ring, in this statement, also goes on to say that Ring cameras were used by police in identifying a school shooter at Brown University in December 2025.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

That's an odd non sequitur in a press release about canceling a controversial partnership.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

that really explains a lot about Ring and how the company sees itself.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

As it happens, Ring's founder, Jamie Siminoff, was just on Decoder a few months ago, talking about how and why he founded the company and in detail about why he sees Ring's mission as eliminating crime, not selling cameras or doorbells or floodlights or anything else Ring makes, but getting rid of crime.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And we actually talked about Dog Search Party and how people might feel about that kind of surveillance and how Ring works with the cops quite a bit.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

In fact, Jamie briefly left Ring in 2023

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And the company slowed down its work with law enforcement.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

But ever since he's come back, the emphasis on crime and the work with police has only intensified.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

I asked him about it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Amazon said, we're going to stop working with police.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

You came back.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Boy, Ring is going to work with police again, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

You have a partnership with Axon, which makes the taser that allows law enforcement to get access to Ring footage.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Did that feel like a two-way door?