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Nilay Patel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Do you think you have the foundation to build this next generation of products?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

You provide the tools that allow others to make decisions.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Sure.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

But let me just try it again.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

The answer to the question, do you think people like Experian, is not we're not Palantir.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

That's a very low floor in a very specific way.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

You've talked a lot about trust.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

I'm saying right now the way individual Americans encounter the brand of Experian is not always positive.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

In many cases, it's a faceless entity that controls a downstream decision that, yes, a financial institution is making.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

But the recourse is low.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

This is the tradeoff we've been talking about with scale this whole time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

AI might allow you to change the amount of recourse people have.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

It also might allow, I don't know, a bunch of bad guys to launch ever more sophisticated attacks and get that data out.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

There's more trade-offs here than not.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

So I'm just asking about the foundation of trust that you're working with to begin with.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Do you think enough people like and trust Experian for you to build this next set of capabilities, which might make you even more powerful?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Sure.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

I just think there's a feeling of helplessness that comes with that score sometimes, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

There's a feeling of lack of records, particularly if you feel that score is wrong, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And that's where I think a lot of the โ€“ But that's why Boost, right?