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Nilay Patel

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

So I'll give you this example.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

I think Siri and Alexa and Google Assistant, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Everyone knows what they want them to do.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And then I'm watching all of these companies try to add AI into the mix with their voice assistants and they're not there.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Like they just can't quite do it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And, you know, Apple had to start over and Google is pushing out in stages.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And however that's working, it's working.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

What's been your experience of, okay, we're going to ship an AI tool and we want it to work this way, but it's not quite good enough?

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

We've had Ola from Mercedes on the show, and I think he'll be happy to know that you're the single customer of the Hey Mercedes voice assistant in his cars.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

I've been dying to know who else is using this thing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

The next time he's on, we'll be like, we found one.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Let me ask you, this is going to be the hardest question.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

When I hear from our readers, when I hear from people about what AI might do, the idea that a company like Experian can make decisions that affect their lives using AI is terrifying.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

There's not a lot of hope when people think about this outcome, that there's an all-knowing AI that can generate scores about you based on your behavior and allow other people to make decisions.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And we kind of see this in countries like China, right, where there are reputation scores.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

There are other kinds of centralized data providers that very directly affect people's lives.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

You're in the position to do that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

So I'm going to ask this question in two parts.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

First โ€“

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Do you think people like Experian today?