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Nilay Patel

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

My experience with every LLM is they're pretty bad at math.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Are you using LLMs when you say AI here or are you using a different kind of AI?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

But when you're calculating model drift, that's an LLM doing it?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Or what kind of technology is doing it?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

It's just reads it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

We wrote an entire story about how ChatGPD can't tell time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Yeah.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Sometimes one number is bigger than the other.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

It's actually quite difficult for these models.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Or like increments are actually quite difficult for these models.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

You think that's trustworthy?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

I'm asking you very directly because...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

The problems of hallucination here compound, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

They get exponentially worse as you add more and more AI tools to the system.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

The problems of reflecting biases in the data get exponentially worse as you add scale, as we've talked about.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

How are you making sure the AI systems aren't either hallucinating or reflecting an underlying bias that you can't see?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Wait, yeah, that was my next question.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Have you run into this situation yet where the data scientists have said, we can't use this tool yet?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

That makes sense to me.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

What's been the biggest gap between a capability you want an AI system to have and the one that you tested?