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Nilay Patel

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

How do you make decisions?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

What's your framework?

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Let's put this into practice.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Let's talk about how AI might be changing your business and what you're doing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

The foundation here is that even the idea of the credit score is relatively recent.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

This is a creation of basically the late 1980s.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And a lot of people can have a lot of feelings about their credit scores.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And I would say Experian, TransUnion, Equifax, you can have a lot of feelings about whether or not those companies are responsive to you if you have feelings about your credit score and where they come from.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

In a world of AI, you have...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

vastly more opportunity to make something richer in the data because you can query it differently.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

You have vastly more opportunity to collect information because you can ingest more unstructured information and provide predictions.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

And then you have vastly more risk

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

because the models might hallucinate the data, or they might reflect some underlying bias in the data set as a whole, or you might have huge security problems as we build out how the AI models might talk to each other in databases.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

How do you evaluate all of that risk and still be trusted as Experian?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Because that seems like an awful amount of new risk as the technology shifts.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

We need to take another quick break.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

We're back with experienced Alex Lindner.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

Before the break, Alex gave us a very long, detailed answer as to how he thinks about the inherent risk in AI systems.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

But now I wanted to push on the gap between what we want these systems to do and what they can actually accomplish today.

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

You're describing a lot of math.