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Hello, and welcome to Decoder.

I'm Nilay Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

We're back to start the year off with a very special live interview with Razer CEO Minliang Tan, which we taped in front of a terrific audience at Brooklyn Bowl in Vegas at CES.

Now, Razer is obviously best known for making mice and keyboards and gaming PCs and its signature black and bright green.

with a smattering of RGB LEDs to set everything off.

But the company always makes splashy announcements at CES, and this year was no different.

And along with the hype, there was plenty of controversy.

This year at CES, Razer earned those splashy headlines, and not a little controversy, for something it calls Project Ava, an AI companion that has a physical presence in the real world.

It's an anime hologram that sits in a jar on your desk.