Nilay Patel

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36,692 appearances 132 recordings 4 series first heard Aug 2024 last heard yesterday

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Decoder with Nilay Patel · Can John Ternus find Apple's next big thing? · 21 Sep 2026 podcast

And inside of it, a return to form in terms of just what that leadership page looks like, right? voice-verified

There's no chief design officer who's a legend in his own right. voice-verified

You're saying soon there won't be a chief hardware officer who's a legend in his own right. voice-verified

The heads of design listed on that page, Alan Dye left and went to Meta. voice-verified

Now they're just vice presidents again. voice-verified

They're not even SPPs of design, but they report. voice-verified

to John Turnus. voice-verified

We're we're headed back towards a more functional Apple. voice-verified

They'd gotten to some kind of divisional structure as they try to keep all these powerful people. voice-verified

What do you think that's going to do to the company? voice-verified

Or is that just going to be more of the same? voice-verified

retention of of P players. voice-verified

I actually would draw the connection between retention and AI. voice-verified

The not having that bench of younger people voice-verified

with new ideas or disruptive ideas, I think prevented them from seeing AI for what it was. voice-verified

That's a really good point. voice-verified

I think I think about w what came to be known as the Cook Doctrine, where Tim Cook would often say, we want to own and control every foundational technology that goes into our funds. voice-verified

And this is really just a statement of Apple's own paranoia about being chained to Intel for a long time or whate whatever it might be. voice-verified

They couldn't see a way to owning and controlling AI because it's just massive investment. voice-verified

They had just blown a bunch of money trying to make a car and they kind of missed it, right? voice-verified

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